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	<title>Comments on: Behavioural Data patterns: The synergies between mass media, social media and mobile media</title>
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		<title>By: Ajit Jaokar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ajit Jaokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks Jonathan! appretiate your detailed insights! kind rgds Ajit
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks Jonathan! appretiate your detailed insights! kind rgds Ajit</p>
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		<title>By: jMac</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some very good insights here.
I don&#039;t tend to split social media from mobility (although I can see exactly why you have above) and as for &#039;social networks&#039;, personally I view them as the connectivity between our social group. Social networks existed long before &#039;Facebook&#039;as we know....and I mean by thousands of years.
I agree entirely with the use of interactive channels to complement &#039;make interactive&#039; the monologue channels.
Your article raises another point about mobile operators knowing who the customer is.
We should now start a movement of transparency and reality on this point.
1. Operators know who the billing point is registered to be - so long as its a contract play. They cannot 100% identify the customer, only the data stated on the bill.
2. If it isn&#039;t a contract play, operators only have behaviour to go on - from SMSC/Click-stream etc - and at this juncture it is worth pointing out that the trend toward pre-pay in some territories completely ECLIPSES contract play. What then for connecting the unknown with brands?
3. Al operators have a significant inaccuracy in their data sets. Let&#039;s be honest about this. Even on the accurate data, the silos are often not joined together.....after all, the model was/is based on billing people rather than learning anything about them.
4. Almost all of the information they have does not match the information advertisers want and need. Incredibly this isn&#039;t front of mind just yet in wondering why the &#039;year of mobile&#039; hasn&#039;t happened yet. The answers are clear in my opinion...
5. I believe there needs to be at least 10k segments created so as to ensure minimal risk of irrelevance. So far, most major operators can present inventory in around a dozen, which is incredible if applied to tens of millions of people.
6. I see another 3 P&#039;s as PERMISSION, PREFERENCE and PRIVACY (as written here: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jonathanmacdonald.com/?p=1593).&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.jonathanmacdonald.com/?p=1593).&lt;/a&gt; I believe the mobile opportunity cannot grow as much as we expect/would like without peoples permission and preferences known by ASKING rather than inferering or assuming.
7. Patterns (in your article) is a good approach BUT, the &#039;gleaning&#039; and aligorythmic practice only reduces failure rates by points rather than moving to abolishing them by flipping the model (as in point 6).
So - in summary - great post Ajit and I like the approach of writing guidance in how we can best use this unique and ubiquitous channel. Adding some home-truths to it will justify the points even more and - I believe - add even more clarity to the way forward. There is no way back from here.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some very good insights here.<br />
I don&#8217;t tend to split social media from mobility (although I can see exactly why you have above) and as for &#8216;social networks&#8217;, personally I view them as the connectivity between our social group. Social networks existed long before &#8216;Facebook&#8217;as we know&#8230;.and I mean by thousands of years.<br />
I agree entirely with the use of interactive channels to complement &#8216;make interactive&#8217; the monologue channels.<br />
Your article raises another point about mobile operators knowing who the customer is.<br />
We should now start a movement of transparency and reality on this point.<br />
1. Operators know who the billing point is registered to be &#8211; so long as its a contract play. They cannot 100% identify the customer, only the data stated on the bill.<br />
2. If it isn&#8217;t a contract play, operators only have behaviour to go on &#8211; from SMSC/Click-stream etc &#8211; and at this juncture it is worth pointing out that the trend toward pre-pay in some territories completely ECLIPSES contract play. What then for connecting the unknown with brands?<br />
3. Al operators have a significant inaccuracy in their data sets. Let&#8217;s be honest about this. Even on the accurate data, the silos are often not joined together&#8230;..after all, the model was/is based on billing people rather than learning anything about them.<br />
4. Almost all of the information they have does not match the information advertisers want and need. Incredibly this isn&#8217;t front of mind just yet in wondering why the &#8216;year of mobile&#8217; hasn&#8217;t happened yet. The answers are clear in my opinion&#8230;<br />
5. I believe there needs to be at least 10k segments created so as to ensure minimal risk of irrelevance. So far, most major operators can present inventory in around a dozen, which is incredible if applied to tens of millions of people.<br />
6. I see another 3 P&#8217;s as PERMISSION, PREFERENCE and PRIVACY (as written here: <a href="http://www.jonathanmacdonald.com/?p=1593)." rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.jonathanmacdonald.com/?p=1593" rel="nofollow">http://www.jonathanmacdonald.com/?p=1593</a>). I believe the mobile opportunity cannot grow as much as we expect/would like without peoples permission and preferences known by ASKING rather than inferering or assuming.<br />
7. Patterns (in your article) is a good approach BUT, the &#8216;gleaning&#8217; and aligorythmic practice only reduces failure rates by points rather than moving to abolishing them by flipping the model (as in point 6).<br />
So &#8211; in summary &#8211; great post Ajit and I like the approach of writing guidance in how we can best use this unique and ubiquitous channel. Adding some home-truths to it will justify the points even more and &#8211; I believe &#8211; add even more clarity to the way forward. There is no way back from here.</p>
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