http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archives/2007/04/of_web_20_mobil.html Wireless mobility - Innovation - Digital convergence - mobile web 2.0 Thu, 19 Jan 2012 13:47:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archives/2007/04/of_web_20_mobil.html/comment-page-1#comment-1024 Ajit Jaokar Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:14:44 +0000 http://dev5.indigocontenthost.co.uk/archives/2007/04/of_web_20_mobil.html#comment-1024 Hi Paul Thanks for your post. The best way for me to respond to these questions is: to provide a concrete example. I am working on a longish post which relates to my talk at Mobile Monday Silicon Valley. I will post it after that talk kind rgds Ajit Hi Paul
Thanks for your post. The best way for me to respond to these questions is: to provide a concrete example. I am working on a longish post which relates to my talk at Mobile Monday Silicon Valley. I will post it after that talk kind rgds Ajit

]]> http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archives/2007/04/of_web_20_mobil.html/comment-page-1#comment-1023 Paul Golding Fri, 06 Apr 2007 16:57:44 +0000 http://dev5.indigocontenthost.co.uk/archives/2007/04/of_web_20_mobil.html#comment-1023 I have a number of questions: If I use mobiles to conduct a telephone survey (poll) - is that harnessing collective intelligence and is it therefore Mobile Web 2.0? Which mobile services are harnessing collective intelligence? Some examples would be useful. What is the benefit of creating a concept called Web 2.0 or Mobile Web 2.0 at all and why do we need to know about it? There are plenty of websites out there that are creating a lot of utility for their users simply by exploiting new technological possibilites, such as low storage costs, AJAX, broadband etc. It is now possible to create sites that offer services going well beyond the original publishing model of the Web, so we have definitely evolved on the Web, but not thanks to "2.0" memes. I suspect that most of these Web entrepreneurs are single-mindedly exploiting these technologies without "getting the big picture of Web 2.0" simply because it doesn't matter. BY your analogy, yhey are therefore blind. In fact, they produce the outputs that end up on the Web 2.0 meme map, not the other way around, so getting the big picture doesn't matter. After all, as you say, it's just a meme, nothing more. My personal objection to this kind of meta-narrative of the Web is that it's really using a social-sciences type of approach to create terms and ideas for their own sake whereas we don't need to do that in technology. The mobile industry is truly in need of re-invention to enable plain old web 1.0 to work. Shouldn't we focus on this problem first? I feel that you will only be adding to the "mobile data" hype that has sorely let users down time and again. I have a number of questions:
If I use mobiles to conduct a telephone survey (poll) – is that harnessing collective intelligence and is it therefore Mobile Web 2.0?
Which mobile services are harnessing collective intelligence? Some examples would be useful.
What is the benefit of creating a concept called Web 2.0 or Mobile Web 2.0 at all and why do we need to know about it?
There are plenty of websites out there that are creating a lot of utility for their users simply by exploiting new technological possibilites, such as low storage costs, AJAX, broadband etc. It is now possible to create sites that offer services going well beyond the original publishing model of the Web, so we have definitely evolved on the Web, but not thanks to “2.0″ memes. I suspect that most of these Web entrepreneurs are single-mindedly exploiting these technologies without “getting the big picture of Web 2.0″ simply because it doesn’t matter. BY your analogy, yhey are therefore blind.
In fact, they produce the outputs that end up on the Web 2.0 meme map, not the other way around, so getting the big picture doesn’t matter. After all, as you say, it’s just a meme, nothing more. My personal objection to this kind of meta-narrative of the Web is that it’s really using a social-sciences type of approach to create terms and ideas for their own sake whereas we don’t need to do that in technology.
The mobile industry is truly in need of re-invention to enable plain old web 1.0 to work. Shouldn’t we focus on this problem first? I feel that you will only be adding to the “mobile data” hype that has sorely let users down time and again.

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