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	<title>Comments on: Mobile2.0: great showcase and a grassroots revolution ..</title>
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	<description>Wireless mobility - Innovation - Digital convergence - mobile web 2.0</description>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 23:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Web 2.0 for mobile phones, is practicaly the same as in the web. you see many communities poping up and i think this is the next hype. social network mobile communities.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Web 2.0 for mobile phones, is practicaly the same as in the web. you see many communities poping up and i think this is the next hype. social network mobile communities.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Molin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Molin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the article.
I would like to show my project - &lt;a href=&quot;http://geocities.com/gene_technics.&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://geocities.com/gene_technics.&lt;/a&gt; I think that a standard hardware platform is the foundation for Mobile 2.0 - a two displays device allows to divide the core content of a Web site and its framework - menu and ads. It allows developers to make sites with easily seen structure - site map on the second display. It allows advertizers to place easily accessible ads on the second display-keyboard - the ads is at the fingertips of consumers. It allows users have a good experience from working with it - comfortable form factor, easy-for-typing keyboard with full and standard localization and all the functions they would expect from a mobile device.
Regards,
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the article.<br />
I would like to show my project &#8211; <a href="http://geocities.com/gene_technics." rel="nofollow">http://geocities.com/gene_technics.</a> I think that a standard hardware platform is the foundation for Mobile 2.0 &#8211; a two displays device allows to divide the core content of a Web site and its framework &#8211; menu and ads. It allows developers to make sites with easily seen structure &#8211; site map on the second display. It allows advertizers to place easily accessible ads on the second display-keyboard &#8211; the ads is at the fingertips of consumers. It allows users have a good experience from working with it &#8211; comfortable form factor, easy-for-typing keyboard with full and standard localization and all the functions they would expect from a mobile device.<br />
Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Gorman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregory Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2006 07:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From my perspective, Mobile 2.0 was a first time event that Dan, Mike, I and several others put together because Web 2.0 did not feature anything on mobility.   We clearly need to get more carriers (MNO) participation and it does not serve anyone&#039;s interest to &quot;bash&quot; mobile carriers.  They are necessary for large scale infrastructure investment and they are not the &quot;empire of evil&quot; that some suggest they are.
Surely if the Mobile Web is to ultimately take off we need to show Mobile Carriers that an open model is preferable to a closed one and that content revenue will eventually be comparable to voice revenue.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my perspective, Mobile 2.0 was a first time event that Dan, Mike, I and several others put together because Web 2.0 did not feature anything on mobility.   We clearly need to get more carriers (MNO) participation and it does not serve anyone&#8217;s interest to &#8220;bash&#8221; mobile carriers.  They are necessary for large scale infrastructure investment and they are not the &#8220;empire of evil&#8221; that some suggest they are.<br />
Surely if the Mobile Web is to ultimately take off we need to show Mobile Carriers that an open model is preferable to a closed one and that content revenue will eventually be comparable to voice revenue.</p>
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		<title>By: PavingWays</title>
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		<dc:creator>PavingWays</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 19:10:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Mobile 2.0 Event review&lt;/strong&gt;

We kicked off our stay in San Francisco and the Silicon Valley with the Mobile 2.0 event organized by the folks that normally organize the Mobile Monday here in the Bay Area. There were around 300 people attending, the location was great as was the lun...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Mobile 2.0 Event review</strong></p>
<p>We kicked off our stay in San Francisco and the Silicon Valley with the Mobile 2.0 event organized by the folks that normally organize the Mobile Monday here in the Bay Area. There were around 300 people attending, the location was great as was the lun&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Mantripp</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Mantripp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wasn&#039;t at the event, but reading this it feels like I was - thanks for taking the time to write it.
I have a specific comment - I feel uneasy about this statement:
&quot;uptake of services on mobile will definitely come and in the future it will be totally alien to think of web applications without the mobile terminal having a central role; but users don’t tolerate poorly conceived services and poor user experience&quot;
I don&#039;t see the connected reasoning behind the &quot;will definetly come&quot; bit. Why will they ?  Is it really so certain that poor user experience is the ONLY factor in the general consumer disinterest ? Is it perhaps also the case that many web apps simply do not translate to mobile because there is no demand for them ?  I keep seeing these projections about the so-called Mobile Web 2.0, but all I see behind them is wishful thinking from a number of perspectives. Equating mobile services with &quot;accessing the web through a mobile&quot; is perhaps a big mistake.  Perhaps the key is not so much &quot;let&#039;s make it possible to do things on mobile that we can do on the web&quot;, but rather &quot;let&#039;s make it possible to do things on mobile that you can&#039;t do, or don&#039;t want to do, on the web&quot;.
I really get the impression of a bunch of people standing around, all nervously reassuring each other that &quot;it&#039;s all going to work out, really&quot;  :-)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t at the event, but reading this it feels like I was &#8211; thanks for taking the time to write it.<br />
I have a specific comment &#8211; I feel uneasy about this statement:<br />
&#8220;uptake of services on mobile will definitely come and in the future it will be totally alien to think of web applications without the mobile terminal having a central role; but users don’t tolerate poorly conceived services and poor user experience&#8221;<br />
I don&#8217;t see the connected reasoning behind the &#8220;will definetly come&#8221; bit. Why will they ?  Is it really so certain that poor user experience is the ONLY factor in the general consumer disinterest ? Is it perhaps also the case that many web apps simply do not translate to mobile because there is no demand for them ?  I keep seeing these projections about the so-called Mobile Web 2.0, but all I see behind them is wishful thinking from a number of perspectives. Equating mobile services with &#8220;accessing the web through a mobile&#8221; is perhaps a big mistake.  Perhaps the key is not so much &#8220;let&#8217;s make it possible to do things on mobile that we can do on the web&#8221;, but rather &#8220;let&#8217;s make it possible to do things on mobile that you can&#8217;t do, or don&#8217;t want to do, on the web&#8221;.<br />
I really get the impression of a bunch of people standing around, all nervously reassuring each other that &#8220;it&#8217;s all going to work out, really&#8221;  <img src='http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Luca Passani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luca Passani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 07:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very useful indeed. Thanks for taking the time to write this.
Luca
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very useful indeed. Thanks for taking the time to write this.<br />
Luca</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Appelquist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Appelquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 03:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great and very thorough review!  BTW I largely agree with Mike&#039;s comments on the event, but overall I thought it went very well considering it was an all-volunteer effort (and the first time Mike or I had every done anything like this). The take-aways for me for future events were mostly to limit powerpoint and emphasize interactive discussion. This view was reinforced for me by the Web 2.0 conference format which emphasizes moderated discussion. I&#039;ve been inspired to apply this format not only to future mobile 2.0 events (if and when they occur) but also to future Mobile Monday London events. All in all though, I stick to my assessment that the event was extremely positive - but I&#039;m a &quot;glass half full&quot; kind of guy... :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great and very thorough review!  BTW I largely agree with Mike&#8217;s comments on the event, but overall I thought it went very well considering it was an all-volunteer effort (and the first time Mike or I had every done anything like this). The take-aways for me for future events were mostly to limit powerpoint and emphasize interactive discussion. This view was reinforced for me by the Web 2.0 conference format which emphasizes moderated discussion. I&#8217;ve been inspired to apply this format not only to future mobile 2.0 events (if and when they occur) but also to future Mobile Monday London events. All in all though, I stick to my assessment that the event was extremely positive &#8211; but I&#8217;m a &#8220;glass half full&#8221; kind of guy&#8230; <img src='http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike Rowehl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Rowehl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 02:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comments Paddy.  Fantastic writeup you have here!  You&#039;re obviously very knowledgeable when it comes to mobile to begin with, which is why I think you managed to take so much away from the event.  That&#039;s a good thing, I think we really succeeded on that end.  However I would have liked to also have given some direct answers to people not already working in mobile, or looking to solve practical problems like dealing with device differences and payment systems. I spent a lot of time wandering around to tables talking to folks, and I came away thinking we just didn&#039;t provide enough to the folks who came to the event from outside mobile. Granted, it&#039;s a hard thing to do to service both sides of the spectrum, but I think we need to hold ourselves to high standards.
You have some fantastic comments in your post here about mashups, very nice.  Thanks for carrying on the conversation!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments Paddy.  Fantastic writeup you have here!  You&#8217;re obviously very knowledgeable when it comes to mobile to begin with, which is why I think you managed to take so much away from the event.  That&#8217;s a good thing, I think we really succeeded on that end.  However I would have liked to also have given some direct answers to people not already working in mobile, or looking to solve practical problems like dealing with device differences and payment systems. I spent a lot of time wandering around to tables talking to folks, and I came away thinking we just didn&#8217;t provide enough to the folks who came to the event from outside mobile. Granted, it&#8217;s a hard thing to do to service both sides of the spectrum, but I think we need to hold ourselves to high standards.<br />
You have some fantastic comments in your post here about mashups, very nice.  Thanks for carrying on the conversation!</p>
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