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	<title>Comments on: web 2.0 revenue models: Show me the money!</title>
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	<description>Wireless mobility - Innovation - Digital convergence - mobile web 2.0</description>
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		<title>By: Alexis Perrier</title>
		<link>http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archives/2006/07/web_20_show_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-761</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexis Perrier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 16:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was asked about what are web2.0 business models recently during an interview and went on about conversation with customers and collective intelligence. I totally missed the ad revenue which I felt a bit too web 1.0.
Next time I can structure my answer much better. Thanks a lot !
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was asked about what are web2.0 business models recently during an interview and went on about conversation with customers and collective intelligence. I totally missed the ad revenue which I felt a bit too web 1.0.<br />
Next time I can structure my answer much better. Thanks a lot !</p>
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		<title>By: Prabhat Kiran</title>
		<link>http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archives/2006/07/web_20_show_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator>Prabhat Kiran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you..really great information on Web 2.0
My mind is popping with million dollar ideas :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you..really great information on Web 2.0<br />
My mind is popping with million dollar ideas <img src='http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ajit Jaokar</title>
		<link>http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archives/2006/07/web_20_show_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-759</link>
		<dc:creator>Ajit Jaokar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 20:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Steve. Re any idea how to make the site marketer proof - not really. In a sense it will have to be accepted. every site may have its own unique ways of dealing with marketers, but I dont think a global solution exists. Take comments on this blog for example. Yes, there could be some comments from marketers who just want a link back to their own site - sometimes thats OK - sometimes not. all depends on a case by case basis. kind rgds Ajit
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Steve. Re any idea how to make the site marketer proof &#8211; not really. In a sense it will have to be accepted. every site may have its own unique ways of dealing with marketers, but I dont think a global solution exists. Take comments on this blog for example. Yes, there could be some comments from marketers who just want a link back to their own site &#8211; sometimes thats OK &#8211; sometimes not. all depends on a case by case basis. kind rgds Ajit</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archives/2006/07/web_20_show_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-758</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 19:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent article, but at the same
time, with Web 2.0 becoming something
that is grown through users contributing
information, how will those same sites
prevent marketing software from also
&quot;contributing&quot; to those sites ?
Myspace has had a problem with that recently.
Any ideas how to make Web 2.0 &quot;marketer-proof &quot;
Steve
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent article, but at the same<br />
time, with Web 2.0 becoming something<br />
that is grown through users contributing<br />
information, how will those same sites<br />
prevent marketing software from also<br />
&#8220;contributing&#8221; to those sites ?<br />
Myspace has had a problem with that recently.<br />
Any ideas how to make Web 2.0 &#8220;marketer-proof &#8221;<br />
Steve</p>
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		<title>By: ebuddy</title>
		<link>http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archives/2006/07/web_20_show_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-757</link>
		<dc:creator>ebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 15:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool Article
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool Article</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
		<link>http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archives/2006/07/web_20_show_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-756</link>
		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 05:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can a site acheive page rank when it doesn&#039;t sell or advertsing anything? That&#039;s exactly what &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.KeyFess.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.KeyFess.com&lt;/a&gt; has done. An online confession site that offers its visitors a ad free anonymous site where they can post, read &amp; vote on confessions, rants and secrets. After only two months this site receives almost 10k new visitors a day and has reached addictive levels. I must &quot;keyfess&quot;, it is refreshing to frequent a site that strictly wants to entertain its visitors and asks for nothing in return. All this while it has a zero page rank? Well, it is only 2 months old, it will be interesting to see where it is on its anniversary!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can a site acheive page rank when it doesn&#8217;t sell or advertsing anything? That&#8217;s exactly what <a href="http://www.KeyFess.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.KeyFess.com</a> has done. An online confession site that offers its visitors a ad free anonymous site where they can post, read &#038; vote on confessions, rants and secrets. After only two months this site receives almost 10k new visitors a day and has reached addictive levels. I must &#8220;keyfess&#8221;, it is refreshing to frequent a site that strictly wants to entertain its visitors and asks for nothing in return. All this while it has a zero page rank? Well, it is only 2 months old, it will be interesting to see where it is on its anniversary!</p>
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		<title>By: Experiments - Trial by FIRE!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Experiments - Trial by FIRE!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Web 2.0 Flares&lt;/strong&gt;

So I read Easton Ellsworth&#039;s defense of Know More Media&#039;s business model to Dead 2.0&#039;s reality-check that Web 2.0 is not monetizable. I haven&#039;t read The Long Tail (in short, today&#039;s success stories involve many small hits than the mainstream
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<p>So I read Easton Ellsworth&#8217;s defense of Know More Media&#8217;s business model to Dead 2.0&#8242;s reality-check that Web 2.0 is not monetizable. I haven&#8217;t read The Long Tail (in short, today&#8217;s success stories involve many small hits than the mainstream</p>
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		<title>By: Rohan Jayasekera</title>
		<link>http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archives/2006/07/web_20_show_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-755</link>
		<dc:creator>Rohan Jayasekera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think &quot;Communities != web 2.0&quot; point h, &quot;A hidden agenda (slapping a fee)&quot; is valid only in a narrow sense.  If the premium services aren&#039;t needed by a typical user, there&#039;s no sacrifice of collective intelligence etc.  The long-tail members are included, but their costs are covered by the short-head members.  An example is Flickr, which most users happily use for free.
I believe that what qualifies a site as web 2.0 (using your definition) is whether the fees for premium services are a barrier for significant numbers of members.  If they are, that&#039;s when collective intelligence etc. suffers.  But if they&#039;re not, because of a combination of high functionality for free and a low price for premium, then a site&#039;s web-2.0-ness is intact.  Like Flickr.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;Communities != web 2.0&#8243; point h, &#8220;A hidden agenda (slapping a fee)&#8221; is valid only in a narrow sense.  If the premium services aren&#8217;t needed by a typical user, there&#8217;s no sacrifice of collective intelligence etc.  The long-tail members are included, but their costs are covered by the short-head members.  An example is Flickr, which most users happily use for free.<br />
I believe that what qualifies a site as web 2.0 (using your definition) is whether the fees for premium services are a barrier for significant numbers of members.  If they are, that&#8217;s when collective intelligence etc. suffers.  But if they&#8217;re not, because of a combination of high functionality for free and a low price for premium, then a site&#8217;s web-2.0-ness is intact.  Like Flickr.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor Walsh</title>
		<link>http://www.opengardensblog.futuretext.com/archives/2006/07/web_20_show_me.html/comment-page-1#comment-754</link>
		<dc:creator>Taylor Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 06:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know everyone HATES going back in time, but if you do that regarding Web 2.0 you will find along the paths of its ancestry many variations of the themes that I keep reading now define Web 2.0.
For those of who&#039;ve been along that path, Web 2.0 looks to be merely the latest expression of the compelling attraction of personal networking that has evolved painfully over the last quarter century.  Even at 300 baud, people wanted, and paid for, information they defined as important to them, and to connect with people with whom they  shared a common interest.
But it has been  excruciatingly difficult to do that, what with it being an Information Age and all, and proprietors of those engines not willing to yield the means of production to the masses, despite the clear signs on their usage charts.
Only in the last couple of years have the inevitably evolving properties of the medium reached a capacity to match that compelling attraction and lock in the Information Sharing Age that has been incipient for so long.
If we keep only that in mind, then the monetization will follow.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know everyone HATES going back in time, but if you do that regarding Web 2.0 you will find along the paths of its ancestry many variations of the themes that I keep reading now define Web 2.0.<br />
For those of who&#8217;ve been along that path, Web 2.0 looks to be merely the latest expression of the compelling attraction of personal networking that has evolved painfully over the last quarter century.  Even at 300 baud, people wanted, and paid for, information they defined as important to them, and to connect with people with whom they  shared a common interest.<br />
But it has been  excruciatingly difficult to do that, what with it being an Information Age and all, and proprietors of those engines not willing to yield the means of production to the masses, despite the clear signs on their usage charts.<br />
Only in the last couple of years have the inevitably evolving properties of the medium reached a capacity to match that compelling attraction and lock in the Information Sharing Age that has been incipient for so long.<br />
If we keep only that in mind, then the monetization will follow.</p>
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